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dirtbag
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ondanks, er zijn al concepten voor ingeleverd, eentje van mij is op dit moment status: wordt bekeken
Merroc, jij hebt em al gezien
The_abyss is er vrij positief over, er is nog wat wijziging nodig, maar het is al goed. Alleen wordt de nadruk bij mij heel veel op bouwen en RTS gelegd (vloten enzo). Je kan zelfs je eigen rijken (race) besturen uiteindelijk. Maar daartoe zullen maar weinig spelers komen. Maar dit kan X tot een hoger niveau tillen, vanuit mijn punt gezien. Want dan worden spelers ook betrokken bij echt het race niveau, en niet alleen bedrijvenniveau. Je kan nu al een beetje op race niveau spelen. Ik wil dit gedeelte helemaal voltooien. Ook wil ik er een specifiek FPS gedeelte ik plakken, dat vooral in de ruimte afspeelt. Met enorme slagen tussen fighters en grotere schepen. t/m de M1's en M0's.
Maarja, er is maar een redelijk kleine kans voordat het geaccepteerd wordt. Ik ga er in ieder geval binnekort een beetje vaart achter zetten, want ik wil niet paar maanden niksen. Ik verveel me nu al dood, sinds ik er niet meer aan werk. Maarja, nadat de volgende patch van X3 uit is, gaan ze er actief naar kijken, kon ik opmaken uit de signalen die ik opving van The_Abyss, CBJ en Bernd
Merroc, jij hebt em al gezien
The_abyss is er vrij positief over, er is nog wat wijziging nodig, maar het is al goed. Alleen wordt de nadruk bij mij heel veel op bouwen en RTS gelegd (vloten enzo). Je kan zelfs je eigen rijken (race) besturen uiteindelijk. Maar daartoe zullen maar weinig spelers komen. Maar dit kan X tot een hoger niveau tillen, vanuit mijn punt gezien. Want dan worden spelers ook betrokken bij echt het race niveau, en niet alleen bedrijvenniveau. Je kan nu al een beetje op race niveau spelen. Ik wil dit gedeelte helemaal voltooien. Ook wil ik er een specifiek FPS gedeelte ik plakken, dat vooral in de ruimte afspeelt. Met enorme slagen tussen fighters en grotere schepen. t/m de M1's en M0's.
Maarja, er is maar een redelijk kleine kans voordat het geaccepteerd wordt. Ik ga er in ieder geval binnekort een beetje vaart achter zetten, want ik wil niet paar maanden niksen. Ik verveel me nu al dood, sinds ik er niet meer aan werk. Maarja, nadat de volgende patch van X3 uit is, gaan ze er actief naar kijken, kon ik opmaken uit de signalen die ik opving van The_Abyss, CBJ en Bernd
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btw, merroc, sorry dat ik die link een beetje overmatig op die chat heb rondgeslingerd. Ik wil gewoon zo snel mogelijk reacties. Ben beetje te enthousiast. Maar, een waarschuwing vooraf: Het zijn 40 pagina's helemaal volgetypt. Je kunt wel scannen, maar als je echt de diepgang wilt weten, moet je het grotendeels lezen (exclusief de conclusie en introductie)
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jazeker, alleen dan moeten ze nog aan 1 ding werken: als je piratenschepen leegschiet dat niet iemand anders je schip kaapt, ik zie al tientallen astronauten enthousiast een schip proberen te kapen terwijl er iemand op ze staat te schieten en een ander schip ze meeneemt om te verkopen als slaaf 
. Ow en als je met zn 2en uit een schip eject kan je natuurlijk ook het schip van de ander claimen
. Ow en als je met zn 2en uit een schip eject kan je natuurlijk ook het schip van de ander claimen -
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dirtbag
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In het begin zijn er maar tussen de 5 en 15 systems volgens mijn concept. Alleen, de systems zijn 5 tot 10 keer groter dan wat we nu in X3 kennen. Als een gemiddelde X3 sector 80 km is, dan is een X-online sector of system tussen de 500 en 800 km alleen al in 1 richting.Michiel1 wrote:ja ok maar de beginners voelen zich natuurlijk veilig in sectors als argon prime en home of light, als hier een piraat langskomt wordt het knokken wie het schip mag hebben. Btw ik ben een kha'ak cluster tegegekomen in home of light.
Dus je ziet, genoeg plaats voor piraten én newbies
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dirtbag
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bedankt.Ilsan wrote:en Dirtbag zijn ideen verder lezen
Btw, ik voeg steeds een nieuw stuk aan die thread toe. Zodra de mensen van egosoft het gezien hebben, en er interesse in hebben, post ik hier de Nederlandse versie, en om het X-universe forum de engelse.
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dirtbag
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nog even verder voortbouwend op de vorige post van me. Ik zal hier iets in het Engels plaatsen over het transportsysteem. Dan zie je meteen, waarom ik zo'n grootte makkelijk toe laat.
Het transportsysteem (engelse versie) :
An universe always needs a transportation system. The X series have a good one. It allows many stations, and fast travel. This all due to the gates and SETA. When we talk about singleplayer based games, SETA is very effective. But in multiplayer, it's useless. It disrupts the game. I have come up with several solutions.
First.
Because normal X3 sectors get easily overcrowded in a multiplayer based game, you need to expand them. I was thinking of including an entire system. All planets, everything in the system. The systems would be huge. They would contain asteroid fields, nebula's, planets and suns all in one. This raises a new problem. The vast size makes it almost impossible to travel by normal means, or even by SETA. The systems would be many times bigger than in X3 the sectors are. If in X3 an average sector would be 80 km. A multiplayer based system has to be 500 to 800 km in all 3 directions. As I said earlier, this raises a problem. It would take far too much time to travel through a system.
I have come up with 2 solutions to it.
Firstly:
I want to add another option to the engine. It works similar as the SETA. The only difference is, that it overboosts the engine, thus increasing the speed by 2 to 6 times (depending on the generation of engine). This will be called the Cruise Engine. The only drawback of it will be, that when you are in cruise mode, you can't fire. Shields recharge more slowly too. This all has to do, that in order to deliver enough power to the cruise engine, it has to direct any energy which would go to the weapons, to the cruise engine. This allows pretty fast travel, but this is only the slow way of accellerating speed.
Secondly:
The best way to speed up travel, is a 'SDW'. An SDW (or Short Distance Wormhole) is built by man. Only empires can build it. The SDW allows travel with 1km/s. They are comparable with Freelancer's Trade Lanes.
These SDW's are built within a system. This links major area's of the system with eachother. They have a large capacity, depending on their type. They also allow relative fast travel. They allow relative safe travel too. When in cruise drive, you can easily be hit by fast missiles. In a SDW, it costs a few ships to bring a segment down, which stops all travel passing that segment. This is a way which is used alot by pirates. This is the only way, you can be attacked when travelling through a SDW. But, this is not the safest way to pass great distances. But it is the only effective one within systems, which allows great safety.
These were the ways within systems, but you need to cover the distance between the stars too, for this we have Jumpholes and Jumpgates.
Jumpholes.
These are naturally occuring Jumpgates. They allow fast travel, but they aren't safe. This is mainly, because they are located within nebula's.
These don't allow large capacities to pass through, but they are effective, due their availability. In each system are one or more. They allow almost instant travel between systems.
Jumpgates.
Jumpgates are artificial Jumpholes. They are expensive, but allow greater capacity. A nice mid-way is building a Jumpgate over a Jumphole. They allow less capacity, but you can controll who comes through, and it is less expensive. They can also be taxed. Every ship has to pay then a certain amount of credits to pass through, although this value can not be set very high. This allows safe travel, and they can be built anywhere. They can also allow only a certain class or certainly ranked players to pass through.
Het transportsysteem (engelse versie) :
An universe always needs a transportation system. The X series have a good one. It allows many stations, and fast travel. This all due to the gates and SETA. When we talk about singleplayer based games, SETA is very effective. But in multiplayer, it's useless. It disrupts the game. I have come up with several solutions.
First.
Because normal X3 sectors get easily overcrowded in a multiplayer based game, you need to expand them. I was thinking of including an entire system. All planets, everything in the system. The systems would be huge. They would contain asteroid fields, nebula's, planets and suns all in one. This raises a new problem. The vast size makes it almost impossible to travel by normal means, or even by SETA. The systems would be many times bigger than in X3 the sectors are. If in X3 an average sector would be 80 km. A multiplayer based system has to be 500 to 800 km in all 3 directions. As I said earlier, this raises a problem. It would take far too much time to travel through a system.
I have come up with 2 solutions to it.
Firstly:
I want to add another option to the engine. It works similar as the SETA. The only difference is, that it overboosts the engine, thus increasing the speed by 2 to 6 times (depending on the generation of engine). This will be called the Cruise Engine. The only drawback of it will be, that when you are in cruise mode, you can't fire. Shields recharge more slowly too. This all has to do, that in order to deliver enough power to the cruise engine, it has to direct any energy which would go to the weapons, to the cruise engine. This allows pretty fast travel, but this is only the slow way of accellerating speed.
Secondly:
The best way to speed up travel, is a 'SDW'. An SDW (or Short Distance Wormhole) is built by man. Only empires can build it. The SDW allows travel with 1km/s. They are comparable with Freelancer's Trade Lanes.
These SDW's are built within a system. This links major area's of the system with eachother. They have a large capacity, depending on their type. They also allow relative fast travel. They allow relative safe travel too. When in cruise drive, you can easily be hit by fast missiles. In a SDW, it costs a few ships to bring a segment down, which stops all travel passing that segment. This is a way which is used alot by pirates. This is the only way, you can be attacked when travelling through a SDW. But, this is not the safest way to pass great distances. But it is the only effective one within systems, which allows great safety.
These were the ways within systems, but you need to cover the distance between the stars too, for this we have Jumpholes and Jumpgates.
Jumpholes.
These are naturally occuring Jumpgates. They allow fast travel, but they aren't safe. This is mainly, because they are located within nebula's.
These don't allow large capacities to pass through, but they are effective, due their availability. In each system are one or more. They allow almost instant travel between systems.
Jumpgates.
Jumpgates are artificial Jumpholes. They are expensive, but allow greater capacity. A nice mid-way is building a Jumpgate over a Jumphole. They allow less capacity, but you can controll who comes through, and it is less expensive. They can also be taxed. Every ship has to pay then a certain amount of credits to pass through, although this value can not be set very high. This allows safe travel, and they can be built anywhere. They can also allow only a certain class or certainly ranked players to pass through.
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Ilsan
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