6.2, no mods.
Don't know if its intended or not: trade station provide sector ownership by the fact it exist in the sector, not by administrative module. Yes, there is Teladi trade station which is leftover from X:Rebirth and sort of exception. But why any other Trade station in the galaxy shares same behavior with Teladi's one? They do have visible and well known administrative module as a module, but right now it serves only cosmetic purpose.
Here is save file with prepared issue.
Sector: Pious Mists 2.
Issue: PAR defense and trade stations got their admin modules sniped. Second defense station exists only in the form of plot yet. Nothing that may provide admin privilege left. But no ownership drop to neutral.
Here is also nav beacon at your service next to the trade station and HQ ready to jump onto. As soon as you teleport and nuke the station sector becomes neutral.
Remark:
It will also be good to fix Teladi trade station by adding admin right to any (accessible from outside) of it's modules and removing overall station privilege.
Any Trade station provide administrative rights by existence. - WAI
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Re: Any Trade station provide administrative rights by existence.
"Nothing that may provide admin privilege left. But no ownership drop to neutral."
That's not how sector ownership works. A previously owned sector with no Admin/Ship Production modules remains the property of the previous owner until a new faction claims it by building the next and only Admin/Ship Production module in the sector. In short, once owned, a sector can never return to neutral; it remains owned although new ownership can be claimed.
Where more than one faction has Admin/Ship Production modules present, the sector is still owned by the original owner but is marked as contested - all until only one faction has such modules present.
That's not how sector ownership works. A previously owned sector with no Admin/Ship Production modules remains the property of the previous owner until a new faction claims it by building the next and only Admin/Ship Production module in the sector. In short, once owned, a sector can never return to neutral; it remains owned although new ownership can be claimed.
Where more than one faction has Admin/Ship Production modules present, the sector is still owned by the original owner but is marked as contested - all until only one faction has such modules present.
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Re: Any Trade station provide administrative rights by existence.
Are we playing different games In my non-modded X4 - sector without admin impact ALWAYS turns neutral. You literally may download save file, nuke trade station remains and get neutral sector as a result...Alan Phipps wrote: ↑Tue, 27. Feb 24, 13:48That's not how sector ownership works. A previously owned sector with no Admin/Ship Production modules remains the property of the previous owner until a new faction claims it by building the next and only Admin/Ship Production module in the sector. In short, once owned, a sector can never return to neutral; it remains owned although new ownership can be claimed.
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Re: Any Trade station provide administrative rights by existence.
Ownership claim does not have to be via an Admin Module. Trading stations are indeed set up to do this by their very existence, and this is by design.
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Re: Any Trade station provide administrative rights by existence. - WAI
"Are we playing different games "
Ooops! Apparently the behaviour on sector ownerships was radically changed in version 5.00 and I just have never consciously recognised a situation since that demonstrated the change. A problem from being a long term player!
5.00 Changelog: * Changed behaviour of contested sectors to become ownerless if old owner no longer has any claim.
Ooops! Apparently the behaviour on sector ownerships was radically changed in version 5.00 and I just have never consciously recognised a situation since that demonstrated the change. A problem from being a long term player!
5.00 Changelog: * Changed behaviour of contested sectors to become ownerless if old owner no longer has any claim.
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Re: Any Trade station provide administrative rights by existence. - WAI
"VIG Keepsafe" is a trade station. But it doesn't perform administrative function. Intended exclusion?