Re: [MOD] Variety and Rebalance Overhaul (VRO) 3.x
Posted: Wed, 3. May 23, 15:09
Of course there is, at least to what's changed, there's an entire Wiki for this mod as linked already on the first post of this thread..
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Of course there is, at least to what's changed, there's an entire Wiki for this mod as linked already on the first post of this thread..
Your throwing a "destroyer" up against a "battleship" your NOT supposed to win that fight, and if you could, that would be a balance issue. A battleship's role is to kill stations and small groups of destroyers. It's literally the rock to your scissors. A battleship is countered with another battleship or a swarm of bombers which can strip all it's weapons away with missiles or dedicated anti-capital weapons like the gunship's plasma bombs, plasma cannons, or even burst rays on light fighters/bombers which partially bypass shields.Bababa wrote: ↑Mon, 1. May 23, 12:04It seems it's impossible to defeat a xenon I with an L ship using this mod. It fires billion projectiles at you with it's L gamma cannons and PPC outranging your main guns deleting any L ship that comes within it's insane range.
So anyone knows how to defeat xenon I with a destroyer?
That's why we love VRO so much.Valhalla_Awaits wrote: ↑Mon, 8. May 23, 08:48You have to bring the right tool for the job in VRO, unlike in Vanilla where all you had to do was throw more swarms of generically fitted fighters at the problem.
The PPC was changed to only be allowed on certain Ships, not defence modules any more. I think Shuulo deemed them a little over-powered and Defence Platforms could be full of them, whereas Ship would have limited amounts, i.e. not all L-Class Turret spots could fit them.Teclo Meridian wrote: ↑Tue, 9. May 23, 20:29Hello, just landed on the boron dlc and installed vro 4.0 on an existing game. All my stations are broken because large PPC are not allowed on argon defence platforms anymore. Only missile lunchers. Is it a feature or just a bug?
Thanks!
Thanks, it's going to be a pain to refit more then 30 stations.Scoob wrote: ↑Tue, 9. May 23, 22:17The PPC was changed to only be allowed on certain Ships, not defence modules any more. I think Shuulo deemed them a little over-powered and Defence Platforms could be full of them, whereas Ship would have limited amounts, i.e. not all L-Class Turret spots could fit them.Teclo Meridian wrote: ↑Tue, 9. May 23, 20:29Hello, just landed on the boron dlc and installed vro 4.0 on an existing game. All my stations are broken because large PPC are not allowed on argon defence platforms anymore. Only missile lunchers. Is it a feature or just a bug?
Thanks!
I can imagine. It's not like you got a resource refund for those PPC turret either. Still, I don't think Shuulo took this balance change lightly...Teclo Meridian wrote: ↑Tue, 9. May 23, 22:57Thanks, it's going to be a pain to refit more then 30 stations.
some replace tool or at least a default replacement would be appreciated. Right now the turrets just vanish leaving your stations exposed. when you edit the turret setup the station is destroied and rebuilt and you also lose sectors control if any other admin centre is present. The game gets wrecked this way. I guess I'll just restart back with vanilla, honestly this is the kind of shit I don't wanna see in a game.. you spend time growing an empire and everything is smashed by some crazy fine tuning.. makes no sense to me.Scoob wrote: ↑Tue, 9. May 23, 23:40I can imagine. It's not like you got a resource refund for those PPC turret either. Still, I don't think Shuulo took this balance change lightly...Teclo Meridian wrote: ↑Tue, 9. May 23, 22:57Thanks, it's going to be a pain to refit more then 30 stations.
Can you not fix it in 5.10 HF3 - i.e. recycle the PPC turrets - and only once that's done load up the v6.0 version?Teclo Meridian wrote: ↑Wed, 10. May 23, 01:18some replace tool or at least a default replacement would be appreciated. Right now the turrets just vanish leaving your stations exposed. when you edit the turret setup the station is destroied and rebuilt and you also lose sectors control if any other admin centre is present. The game gets wrecked this way. I guess I'll just restart back with vanilla, honestly this is the kind of shit I don't wanna see in a game.. you spend time growing an empire and everything is smashed by some crazy fine tuning.. makes no sense to me.
People wanted to continue their games started in v5.10 (or possibly before). Personally, I've have recycled all the PPC turrets while in v5.10 in preparation for the v6.0 update. I was aware of this change from the VRO Discord, but I don't know if this thread made it clear.
I've been able to save the game by replacing all the bridge and disc turretts loadout, one by one in some stations and updating a template where I did not move or change the station in any way. For the larger stations I just used the option to change all the modules to high level and added the needed material by the cheat mod. I don't like using th cheat module, but when shit happens...Teclo Meridian wrote: ↑Wed, 10. May 23, 01:18some replace tool or at least a default replacement would be appreciated. Right now the turrets just vanish leaving your stations exposed. when you edit the turret setup the station is destroied and rebuilt and you also lose sectors control if any other admin centre is present. The game gets wrecked this way. I guess I'll just restart back with vanilla, honestly this is the kind of shit I don't wanna see in a game.. you spend time growing an empire and everything is smashed by some crazy fine tuning.. makes no sense to me.Scoob wrote: ↑Tue, 9. May 23, 23:40I can imagine. It's not like you got a resource refund for those PPC turret either. Still, I don't think Shuulo took this balance change lightly...Teclo Meridian wrote: ↑Tue, 9. May 23, 22:57Thanks, it's going to be a pain to refit more then 30 stations.
Did you mean to @ me? I expect Shuulo would be happy to receive the translationEagle_Four wrote: ↑Sat, 27. May 23, 17:03@Scoob
I have translated the remaining lines into German and corrected errors. Among other things a read-text error, which referred to a not existing encyclopedia entry in the german t-file.
If you are interested I can send you the t-file.