[MOD] Rise of the Ossian Raider v2.0 and ashipmod

[sco1981]

Keep up the nice work. Ship variety is a problem in X4, so ship mods are more than welcome.
If you somehow manage to get the engines fixed to the right size, and the drones working (says for me drones unavailable, even when I have some on board), that would be amazing.
Overall, the visuals with turrets and shields work quite nicely, you picked some good spots for minimal clipping.


If you plan on further upgunning the "True Battleship" version, I marked some spots that just seem to be waiting for turrets


Also, the two L turrets you added in V1.5 (I marked them in the pic below) - I suggest to create a new turret group for those two, to be more flexible in weapon choice.

Ty, engines are not possible right now for me, cause i can't export a resized version from dae- to xml file format yet.
Will look into the drone thing, how do you drop dones? Is this not an automatic system?
I added these two L turrets to an existing group, cause i think there is a limit for turret groups.
May add some more turrets in the future.

[Xfan989]

Will look into the drone thing, how do you drop dones? Is this not an automatic system?
I added these two L turrets to an existing group, cause i think there is a limit for turret groups.
May add some more turrets in the future.

Yes, drones should deploy automatically when under attack. However, on the Taranis it doesn't work for me.

Turret groups.
You currently have SEVEN of those in the V1.5 True Battleship
The Nomad from "Faction Battleships" has THIRTEEN turret groups.
So you can add quite some more groups if you like

[Takei]

Ty, engines are not possible right now for me, cause i can't export a resized version from dae- to xml file format yet.

Have you tried just simply making new XL engines using an L model? That might be the right fit.

[sco1981]

Yes, drones should deploy automatically when under attack. However, on the Taranis it doesn't work for me.

Turret groups.
You currently have SEVEN of those in the V1.5 True Battleship
The Nomad from "Faction Battleships" has THIRTEEN turret groups.
So you can add quite some more groups if you like

13??? Ok, i think thats too much.
I added 2 Groups in version 1.6 and there are now 10L and 56M turrets in the battleship version.
How much has this Nomad?
Did get some repair drones and fly to xenon, after hull was damaged, the repairdrones comes out.

[sco1981]

Ty, engines are not possible right now for me, cause i can't export a resized version from dae- to xml file format yet.

Have you tried just simply making new XL engines using an L model? That might be the right fit.

The problem is, the L model is way too small, so i have to resize the XL or the L one.

[Kamuchi_]

Took the previous version into Faulty Logic and it went toe to toe with 2 destroyers and a whole lot of fighters for a first wave and then another group coming shortly after.
Half the guns were destroyed, one engine got vaporized and heavy hull damage but it took the win.
Having 2 extra main turrets on the side feels like it's one of the last things it needed to have some more weight in the fight, but oh boy did this remind me of some classic space fights with rounds going every where and beams lighting up the space!
Can't wait for a full scale Xenon invasion with FOCW to see how it does with the extra guns

I do have a small request incase you are going to shuffle with the turrets, and that is if the top 2 turrets behind the bridge and the bottom 2 turrets at the center could each get it's own group.
Reason for asking is so that we could install a few plasma weapons to deal with shields while the other turrets deal with the hull or beams with another type of fast firing weapon to increase it's diversity in loadout for when more weapons get added to the game by dlc or mods.
https://i.imgur.com/cZGKWlr.png

Was thinking of letting the argons use it aswel, but after thinking about it...nah!
The ship looks awesome, the battleship version feels great flying in combat and when ever whiping someone out, it gives you that feeling you are your own faction with a different ship design
Great work and looking forward to more tweaks!


https://i.imgur.com/fg5B13c.png

[sco1981]

Took the previous version into Faulty Logic and it went toe to toe with 2 destroyers and a whole lot of fighters for a first wave and then another group coming shortly after.
Half the guns were destroyed, one engine got vaporized and heavy hull damage but it took the win.
Having 2 extra main turrets on the side feels like it's one of the last things it needed to have some more weight in the fight, but oh boy did this remind me of some classic space fights with rounds going every where and beams lighting up the space!
Can't wait for a full scale Xenon invasion with FOCW to see how it does with the extra guns

I do have a small request incase you are going to shuffle with the turrets, and that is if the top 2 turrets behind the bridge and the bottom 2 turrets at the center could each get it's own group.
Reason for asking is so that we could install a few plasma weapons to deal with shields while the other turrets deal with the hull or beams with another type of fast firing weapon to increase it's diversity in loadout for when more weapons get added to the game by dlc or mods.
https://i.imgur.com/cZGKWlr.png

Was thinking of letting the argons use it aswel, but after thinking about it...nah!
The ship looks awesome, the battleship version feels great flying in combat and when ever whiping someone out, it gives you that feeling you are your own faction with a different ship design
Great work and looking forward to more tweaks!


https://i.imgur.com/fg5B13c.png

Yeah, i want to play with FOCW too, this will be awesome, but i need more unique battleships for that big battle feeling.

Next version, i will separate 2 L turrets to a own group, but can't do more. The Turret behavior hud is limited to 11 Groups.
You can let argon and antigone use this with the addon, but i don't like it too. Maybe with more ships on the horizon.

[Xfan989]

13??? Ok, i think thats too much.
I added 2 Groups in version 1.6 and there are now 10L and 56M turrets in the battleship version.
How much has this Nomad?

It has 6 L and 20 M turrets if I am not mistaken

[Kamuchi_]

Yeah, i want to play with FOCW too, this will be awesome, but i need more unique battleships for that big battle feeling.

Next version, i will separate 2 L turrets to a own group, but can't do more. The Turret behavior hud is limited to 11 Groups.
You can let argon and antigone use this with the addon, but i don't like it too. Maybe with more ships on the horizon.

Thanks for the group seperation, that way we can atleast add a couple of shield busters to it

With the 2 extra L turrets and FOCW it really shines
Parked it at the Ianamus Zura <> matrix gate while I'm building some gunstars and I can say that the best spot in the house is standing at the landing platform and watch the fireworks while giving scale to the ships unlike when standing on the bridge, it is so awesome

https://i.imgur.com/EcDrgC1.png
https://i.imgur.com/DwTJVxQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/4jEyhtR.png

Just went on a 1v1 with a Xenon I and if I didn't take manual control, it would have died.
The balance for the battleship version in FOCW is pretty much spot on

[YorkRoss]

A bit of a suggestion if/when you port over the Arawn: I would give it at least 8 or 10 S-size landing/launch bays for Drones/Fighters to launch from. The Taranis's 2 launch pads is really limiting in the current X4 state when recovering all your defense drones (it kinda makes sense since its not meant to be a Carrier but still, its annoying spending a couple minutes SETA'ed every time your defense drones come home to dock). Not really sure about any M-docks on the Arawn but...well, im sure you'll figure that out.

[sco1981]

Thanks for the group seperation, that way we can atleast add a couple of shield busters to it

With the 2 extra L turrets and FOCW it really shines
Parked it at the Ianamus Zura <> matrix gate while I'm building some gunstars and I can say that the best spot in the house is standing at the landing platform and watch the fireworks while giving scale to the ships unlike when standing on the bridge, it is so awesome

https://i.imgur.com/EcDrgC1.png
https://i.imgur.com/DwTJVxQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/4jEyhtR.png

Just went on a 1v1 with a Xenon I and if I didn't take manual control, it would have died.
The balance for the battleship version in FOCW is pretty much spot on

Looks impressive, but i think i should buff K's and I's too, or at least the I as dangerous enemy.

[sco1981]

A bit of a suggestion if/when you port over the Arawn: I would give it at least 8 or 10 S-size landing/launch bays for Drones/Fighters to launch from. The Taranis's 2 launch pads is really limiting in the current X4 state when recovering all your defense drones (it kinda makes sense since its not meant to be a Carrier but still, its annoying spending a couple minutes SETA'ed every time your defense drones come home to dock). Not really sure about any M-docks on the Arawn but...well, im sure you'll figure that out.

I would do that, but the docking bays are too big and i can't edit the models right now.

[Kamuchi_]

Thanks for the group seperation, that way we can atleast add a couple of shield busters to it

With the 2 extra L turrets and FOCW it really shines
Parked it at the Ianamus Zura <> matrix gate while I'm building some gunstars and I can say that the best spot in the house is standing at the landing platform and watch the fireworks while giving scale to the ships unlike when standing on the bridge, it is so awesome

https://i.imgur.com/EcDrgC1.png
https://i.imgur.com/DwTJVxQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/4jEyhtR.png

Just went on a 1v1 with a Xenon I and if I didn't take manual control, it would have died.
The balance for the battleship version in FOCW is pretty much spot on

Looks impressive, but i think i should buff K's and I's too, or at least the I as dangerous enemy.

That would conflict with BlackRain's tweaking I think, better ask him to buff the I
I added a few screenshots to the nexus page aswel, approve if you like any and I'll delete the rest, the low orbit and the Matrix #451 are my fav https://i.imgur.com/rwqwU9c.png

[sco1981]

That would conflict with BlackRain's tweaking I think, better ask him to buff the I
I added a few screenshots to the nexus page aswel, approve if you like any and I'll delete the rest, the low orbit and the Matrix #451 are my fav https://i.imgur.com/rwqwU9c.png

Ah ok, i have to play more than mod the game.
Thanks for the screenshots, the 3 Taranis looks cool, some more for a big fleet and time to takeover some sectors.

[Kamuchi_]

That would conflict with BlackRain's tweaking I think, better ask him to buff the I
I added a few screenshots to the nexus page aswel, approve if you like any and I'll delete the rest, the low orbit and the Matrix #451 are my fav https://i.imgur.com/rwqwU9c.png

Ah ok, i have to play more than mod the game.
Thanks for the screenshots, the 3 Taranis looks cool, some more for a big fleet and time to takeover some sectors.

Oh yeah, but desperate to build some gunstars to help secure all the xenon gates, FOCW really makes things interesting that the Teladi station docks got wrecked and 1 Taranis wasn't enough lol
I'm really loving this ship

[Takei]

A bit of a suggestion if/when you port over the Arawn: I would give it at least 8 or 10 S-size landing/launch bays for Drones/Fighters to launch from. The Taranis's 2 launch pads is really limiting in the current X4 state when recovering all your defense drones (it kinda makes sense since its not meant to be a Carrier but still, its annoying spending a couple minutes SETA'ed every time your defense drones come home to dock). Not really sure about any M-docks on the Arawn but...well, im sure you'll figure that out.

I would do that, but the docking bays are too big and i can't edit the models right now.

Actually there are some nice spots for S-docks on the ship. 12 to be precise, 6 on each side. I can just eyeball it but it should fit.

[ADMNtek]

A bit of a suggestion if/when you port over the Arawn: I would give it at least 8 or 10 S-size landing/launch bays for Drones/Fighters to launch from. The Taranis's 2 launch pads is really limiting in the current X4 state when recovering all your defense drones (it kinda makes sense since its not meant to be a Carrier but still, its annoying spending a couple minutes SETA'ed every time your defense drones come home to dock). Not really sure about any M-docks on the Arawn but...well, im sure you'll figure that out.

I would do that, but the docking bays are too big and i can't edit the models right now.

Actually there are some nice spots for S-docks on the ship. 12 to be precise, 6 on each side. I can just eyeball it but it should fit.

sideways mounted docks cool idea but would that even work? also the ai is bad enough with regular docks but this. and i was wondering what is keeping defense drones from using the drone ports the cargo drones use.

[Takei]

Yeah should work.... heck the teladi Tradestation has even upside down mounted ones.... orientation would play key here though.... they should be pointed upwards so the ships are as far away as possible after undocking.

[sco1981]

Yeah should work.... heck the teladi Tradestation has even upside down mounted ones.... orientation would play key here though.... they should be pointed upwards so the ships are as far away as possible after undocking.

Thats right, it will work. But it will cause clipping and you will see a wall of texture when the docking bay will open the door to place ships inside.
It will looks ugly then.

[Takei]

Yeah should work.... heck the teladi Tradestation has even upside down mounted ones.... orientation would play key here though.... they should be pointed upwards so the ships are as far away as possible after undocking.

Thats right, it will work. But it will cause clipping and you will see a wall of texture when the docking bay will open the door to place ships inside.
It will looks ugly then.

I allready see that clipping right now..... also those spaces there are way easier to edit later on, when it becomes possible, since there is no more or less complext geometry behind it