Anyone else having trouble finding XI missions?

teladianium · Post by **teladianium** » Thu, 28. Sep 06, 23:34

Now that I'm within reach of getting the rank for a Titan I'm having a lot of trouble finding XI missions. I figure that if I find one that is not for the Argon then the next may be, so I keep looking as they seem to be the best race rep boosters. I pick up any XT or assass. missions regardless of who is offering them to break the monoteny.

The last 2 weeks have been a pain. The last 2 XI missions I had to search fro about 8 hours or so to find each one and eventually found them in New Income and Getsu Fune. Currently I've been looking for about 3 hours and have checked:

Two Grand, New Income, Ianamus Jura, 18 Billion, Scale Plate, PTNI, Profit C A, Nyana, Circle, Omicron, Treasure, BHS, Thynns, Fam. Njy, Njy Decep. Hilas Joy, Fam.Ryk, Ocean, Bluish, Menelaus Para., Getsu, Fam.Zrt, Zrt Dom. Grand Ex. Belt Ag. Midnight St., Wastelands, Nathan, Interworlds, Ceos Doubt, Merch. Haven. -- hmm missed Ghinns Escape, I'll check there next...

I dock at at least one and sometimes 2 stations. I think I've covered every sector within 4 jumps of a sector neighbouring on a Xenon sector.

Anyone else having these problems? Perhaps I should just take a break and bust up Pirate Alley?

Game: Boring Boron
Time: 9-20:14
Credits: 148 mill.
Industrialist 29%
Crusader: 2%
Argon Fed. Overwatch 33%
Boron Qu. Prot. 81%
Split Priv. Assoc. Rhonk. 71%
Para. Priest Protecterate 97%
Tel. Comp. Owner 86%
Goner Sceptic 50% (that's the start rank in this game and there seems no way to increase it, so no transporter device)

Diesel309 · Post by **Diesel309** » Fri, 29. Sep 06, 00:26

If I'm looking for XI missions I generally look in the sectors right next to Xenon sectors (don't forget Xenon 101) and loop anticlockwise around the map. I aways check 2 stations per sector and I have always found one before completing the loop.
I could just be lucky though.

Goner rep will increase if you buy Insurance, lots of it that is (don't know if you can though)

Gargamel_sw · Post by **Gargamel_sw** » Fri, 29. Sep 06, 03:56

i heard if you follow around 'escorting' unknown objects (UFOs), your Goner rank would increase. Haven't done this myself so I don't know though.

I'm ranked Assasin and I'm having a difficult time finding the missions as well

MooMan7777 · Post by **MooMan7777** » Fri, 29. Sep 06, 04:17

wow, aparently no one who's actually played this game actually responds to questions anymore...

XI missions, assination, XT missions, become on average 2 to 3 times harder to find once you reach the race ranks one step before getting an M1 or M2...aparently this is done on purpose and it really pissed me off...

it took me less then 2 weeks (15 hrs of actual game time) to get to the rank priest protectorate, and 4 more weeks to get to emperors protectorate(roughly 45 hrs of aditional game time)

btw, if you are an agressive player (ie you'd rather fight then trade) the absolute best capital ship in the game is the split carrier, well, i have split everything excpt a boron and parinid m2 (paranid is best all around, boron has the most anti-capital ship firepower)

you can find XI missions (btw, you will need more then just this to get an M1 or M2) up to 3 jumps from a Xenon teritory, and Xenon 101 does not count(it is only plot related, you will never find a XI mission near there)

the majority of XI missions that i've found ( and i have well over 250 hours of actual game play(thats real time, not game time...and yes my fiance' hates me now) i've found in taladi teritories, getsu's fortune, family njy, and thyn's abyss

Also, you only need to check one station in the sector, and it doesnt matter which one you go to

what is worse, is that the mission doesnt stay in the same sector for long, and chances are by the time you've made a whole loop (checking every sector up to 3 jumps away) it has probably moved to a sector you've already checked!

now, one thing to remember, is that the game is trying to prevent you from reaching this rank...one trick i find, that after i've made the whole loop and found nothing, is to save the game, exit the game, go back in and reload the save game...this usually clears up any dry spells i've been seeing

however, as i breifly mentioned before, xi missions are not enough, unless you intend to play for the next year or so and get no where...

you also need to trade with the race you want to impress...

best bet is to build factories with stuff they need, in places its sparce, sell it for dirt cheep, to force them to buy from you...

i also built illegal goods plants in their sectors, so i could scan every ship leaving and detect them as pirates to gain more exp

(btw, only kill them if they are not the race you are trying to impress...in my case i wanted to impress everyone so i quit doing this fairly quickly...)

anyhow, thats all, i guess PM me if you need more help...

foxy42 · Post by **foxy42** » Fri, 29. Sep 06, 07:23

Assassination missions are usually big rep, at least the ones that are worth a million or so. I jumped from 90% split something or other, to 2% Split Protector (enough for the ellie and the dragon), after one assassination mission that was worth 985000. The mission was s Split mission, but the target was Argon, this is what made the difference, the split don't like the Argon. It's like a quadruple bonus, the rep with the split for completing a difficult mission, more rep with the split cos the target was argon (even more if you are lucky enough to be asked to assassinate a boron), rep with the Argon for destroying an outlaw, AND a million credits...I don't think the spawn of assassination missions is affected by your rank.

Good places for Argon XIs are Getsu Fune, Black Hole Sun and Omicron Lyrae.

teladianium · Post by **teladianium** » Fri, 29. Sep 06, 08:18

@foxy42

thanks, I already do all assass. missions that pay more than say 400k, I've done them up to 3mill, for a TL, 2 M6 and 2 M3 and I agree that they are good rep boosters - the 3 mill one was for Warrior so I might get even better now. But as they are random I figure I've got as good chance of finding one while I'm looking for an XI mission as while not so - nothing lost here. Cheers.

@MooMan7777

It's nice to meet someone who plays the game

I've had to copy your post into a doc so I can read it off line and think (while I'm at work) about my strategy. I can believe that they move around as I could have sworn that I had checked Getsu several times before finding the last XI mission, I always check the Teladi EQ dock there as I've found many there in the past.

I ws probably a bit wary of saying that the game was apparently geting harder, as it sounds a bit paranoid but it certainly seems so to me.

WRT to the ppl who posted re Goner rank. I can buy salvage but thats all. My Goner rank hasn't changed since I started the nonplot game. I've tried buying 30 salvage at a time just to see if it would make any diff. to my rank but it has never budged from Sceptic 50%. I've prob. bought 100 salvage in total - mostly to see if my rank changes, I don't use it much myself.

cheers.....

teladianium · Post by **teladianium** » Sat, 30. Sep 06, 22:43

@MooMan7777

after adjusting my strategy for finding XI missions I'm doing better. Done 1 and in the middle of another. Rank is increasing. I also managed to get another 2 assass. missions, both for the Paranid, 3 mill. and 4 mill. that pushed my Paranid rank up from Priest Protectorate 97% to Friend of Emperor 51% so I might be getting an Oddy instead of the Titan.

I've started to concentrate on the sectors that I know are best for XI missions rather than try all that might have an XI mission and just cycle around them with a few side trips to other sectors. I've also bought a Mammoth and now have 4 Silicon L and 2 Ore L close to Argon Prime, I had no facts before just a couple of UTs.

BTW have you met the Tsar of Cows? or is the name a coincidence?

Game : Boring Boron
Time : 10-09:45
Credits : 115m
Industrialist 51%
Crusader 40%

Argon Fed. Overwatch 41%
Boron Queens Protectorate 81%
Split Priv. Assoc. Rhonkar 76%
Paranid Friend of Emperor 51%
Teladi Venture Profiteer 13%

Kieren_the_vexed · Post by **Kieren_the_vexed** » Sun, 1. Oct 06, 00:57

Firstly great threat and thanks to all the peeps replying

I didn't know that you get a race rank inc. for both races in an ass. mission. Say the target is Argon, I thought that you get a minor drop for killing an Argon. I also thought that every stations BBS was independant so I've been checking every station in a sector looking for XI before moving on. I do it in an m5 and do the taxi or tour mssions. I check the BBS before agreeing to wait though.

I've found most of my XI in the split sectors just up from Black Hole Sun (sorry no map handy so can't be more acurate). Also the sector being invaded is not related to the race that offered it. The split have offered most of mine but i've had them in all other races sectors. I presume the cash reward goes up with rank aswell as kills.

biggie1447 · Post by **biggie1447** » Sun, 1. Oct 06, 02:53

i am at the point where i am high enough to not find a XI mission and to low to find any good Ass. missions

it is mildly anoying

Geggo · Post by **Geggo** » Sun, 1. Oct 06, 10:34

Never had a problem finding them, then again I'm not actually looking either.

I do pretty much any mission if it is "safe". (as in not spawning a xenon armada on top of my brand new installation or fleet staging area.)

especially fun is station hopping with M5 (Yaki Rajin Raider), each leg of the trip is worth up to 1MCr for 2 mins of flying and it enables me to check several stations in different sectors in very short time. (ps I jump my raptor in ahead so I can refuel on the target sector)

I also noticed that I seem to neglect some parts that could just as well be having XI's, namely Grand Exchange area, Black Hole Sun area and both sides of XS347.

just did one XI that spawned 4 K's and 3 J's to Getsu Fune, Split helper Python got 2 K's and I got the rest with superior speed of python.

Diesel309 · Post by **Diesel309** » Sun, 1. Oct 06, 14:02

wow, aparently no one who's actually played this game actually responds to questions anymore...

Don't be so daft

the majority of XI missions that i've found ( and i have well over 250 hours of actual game play(thats real time, not game time...and yes my fiance' hates me now) i've found in taladi teritories, getsu's fortune, family njy, and thyn's abyss

Two of these are Split and Meneleus's Paradise is also a good place. All of these are within 1 jump of a Xenon sector. I know you can find them up to 3 jumps away but have never needed to bother as I usually find them closer.

Also, you only need to check one station in the sector, and it doesnt matter which one you go to

This is not true as I have found the messages change and the second station has had an XI. After this they all do if you don't take it obviously.

And the Goner rep, When I said lots I meant a lot more than 100 Insurance's. My Graphics card tends to overheat and shut down my computer so I use a lot of saves

synctrance · Post by **synctrance** » Sun, 1. Oct 06, 23:39

MooMan7777 wrote: XI missions, assination, XT missions, become on average 2 to 3 times harder to find once you reach the race ranks one step before getting an M1 or M2...aparently this is done on purpose and it really pissed me off...

Exactly my situation and iam thinking giving up on the game as it looks right now.
I had XI a few times while having low ranks, ive done 2 and they only consisted of several L's. I even declined once since i had a tough time fighting them in a buster. Then, i moved on trading and empire building and now when i up to the task i cant find any!

Why does the game prevent me from playing?

What should i do now? I have about 50 transporters (30 ut's, 10 buyer/seller/cag). I produce almost any capital ship weapons/shields, estimated complexes value 1.5 BilCr. Missile complex alone is 300mil.
Iam able to equip 5-6 capital ships at once. I also have plenty of patrols elephants and all kinds of M6's patrolling about 25 sectors.
And not to mention, iam almost done through the bonus pack.

Ive cleared 2 xenon sectors entirely (warlord at 89%) and its getting boring fighting them in M3 or M6. I want a split Python and why am i not allowed to have one yet? Sure, i could have gotten a Titan without much efford, but its not the point.
Station hopping, seriously, is that whats left for a challenging player to do?

Kieren_the_vexed · Post by **Kieren_the_vexed** » Mon, 2. Oct 06, 03:34

I spent about 6 hours to day failing to find one. I ended up doing factory tours and deliveries in an A wing Raider (DDRS mod pack) Also I found and completed about 3 assasin missions but they only paid about 70K.

I did however notice that my fighting rank went from Warrior to Assasin which is interesting because assasin doesn't feature on the list in the book.

teladianium · Post by **teladianium** » Mon, 2. Oct 06, 08:33

I did however notice that my fighting rank went from Warrior to Assasin which is interesting because assasin doesn't feature on the list in the book.

When I was playing 1.3 at the beginnning of the year I was surprised to find that I got to Combat Ace 3rd grade at one point, this kind of slipped in from X2, looks like they replaced it with a proper X3 rank, but it was missing from the ranks list in the printed handbook. Compare the Trade list and the Combank ranks list and you'll see that there is one more trade rank in the printed list. I asked about this at the beginning of the year and alot of ppl comfirmed it.

jlehtone · Post by **jlehtone** » Mon, 2. Oct 06, 11:44

synctrance wrote:Ive cleared 2 xenon sectors entirely (warlord at 89%) and its getting boring fighting them in M3 or M6. I want a split Python and why am i not allowed to have one yet?

If you find clearing Xenon with M3 boring, then you can probably do the same with M2 half asleep.

Missions are always random, but the way BBS messages get generated is quite trivial. Beeing so close to the goal makes one feel like there would be less missions around. Human brain.

You can do any one thing in this game and it will start to feel boring. But luckily there are many such things, so one can choose how to get bored today.

Exekutor · Post by **Exekutor** » Mon, 2. Oct 06, 12:46

Ive read there is a way to clone XI, but I cant really remember how it worked.
Im also desperately looking for a XI, especially a Split one. I want an Ellie

Diesel309 · Post by **Diesel309** » Mon, 2. Oct 06, 15:15

Ive read there is a way to clone XI, but I cant really remember how it worked.

First you have to find an XI mission, then DON'T take it, dock at another station in the same sector check the BBS and there will be another. As long as you don't take them you can do this for every station in the sector. You can go to the next sector as long as it's the same race and do the same.
As soon as you take one this will stop, but the ones you have checked already will still be there.

synctrance · Post by **synctrance** » Mon, 2. Oct 06, 16:49

jlehtone wrote: You can do any one thing in this game and it will start to feel boring. But luckily there are many such things, so one can choose how to get bored today.

Sure it is, but holding player back from reaching his goal while he achieved every other thing in the game is pointless.
I agree with MooMan7777 on randomness of XI missions when having 1 rank before getting M2.
The funny thing is, many people referring to mission cloning as cheat/exploit, while something like XI, which benefits the goal, should be available whenever somone has an urge for it, apperantly everyone does!!!
This is an open ended game after all and its up to the player what he does whenever he does.

Geggo · Post by **Geggo** » Mon, 2. Oct 06, 17:34

Sure this is a SP game and everyones game is their own business but it IS a bug and it IS unintended (I think it's pretty much the same bug that causes the repeated "Burnit won the auction" message each time with different ammount I might add)

I wish they fix it on update 2.0

I'd say this descripes the situation pretty well (the last picture mostly)
http://www.thenoobcomic.com/daily/strip216.html

The 2 eyed mutant cyclops representing X3
me as the guy in red shirt
anyone who doesn't play X3 and/or has no idea what were saying as the guy with red cap
the ghost (out of ideas...)
Sir Bob (the guy on the rock with yellow hat) is anyone exploiting bugs/features etc (in general cheating in SP game)
and the remaining ones represent the players that play the game and don't whine

You might notice just a hint of sarkasm in this post if your carefull

egosoft.com

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Anyone else having trouble finding XI missions?

Anyone else having trouble finding XI missions?