V2200 wrote: ↑Wed, 11. May 22, 16:24
This is not included in the original plans of Russia.
Based on the fact that Ukraine did not want to resolve the issue of the LDPR peacefully, but chose the path of war, it does not need these territories. It was obvious that Russia would not allow the issue to be resolved by force (Georgia 2008 is a recent example). What Zelensky and Western backers hoped for is not entirely clear.
Maybe it's time to realized, there was no plan and everything was driven by greed and stupidity of Putin?
Lets get back to the order of events.
No one cared about the situation in Donetsk, there were like 3 Minsk agreements and nobody cared for them, neither Ukraine, Russia or the West (I care to remind both France and Germany were involved with strongly pro-Russian stance).
Then even Biden spelled it to Putin in big letters (in case Putin, like we already confirmed, is r*tarded) - "Limited incursion into Ukraine will not trigger NATO reaction".
Then Putin signed off reckognition of Luhans and Donets regions.
Everyone was like "oh, great, another Donetsk curfufle".
But then we found out that aparently russian difinition of "limited" means 5-pronge full combine arms total warfare with main strike going for Ukraine capital that is totally on the opposite direction of the flashpoint.
Then Russia try the bio-labs and WMD story...doesn't stick.
Then Russia try denazification story...doesn't stick (also aparently russians are too dumb to spell it or even understand it).
The after two months, finally Russia is STARTING to focus on taking the regions it supposed to "protect".
Now care to explain to me how is it about protecting anybody, rather than failed attempt for conquest and subjugation of entire Nation?
Lets not forget Russia and Putin annouced multiple times they don't reckognize the existence of Ukraine as a state and as a nation - that oddly smell like a crawling genocide.
Now I will sell you an alternative plan, where you actually protect Donetks:
- attack only focused on South (out of Crimea) and East (to encircle Ukraine Donbas forces).
- probably attack and fail on Kharkiv, like in reality, coz it was suprise to everyone, still attack can act as an distraction (like in reality Russia pretended Kyiv attack was
) .
- since there is no Kiyv attack angle, nor Bucha, there is less dramatic media coverage.
- pretend this is "limited special" operation to protect Donbas and because it is actually limited, the story stick, Germany and France and West in general are hesitant what to do.
- encircle and destroy Ukraine Donbas forces - got story points about "demilitarization" both for internal and external diplomacy.
- push to take half Ukraine to Dnieper river.
- Ukraine resistance consolidate along Dnieper, West finally start to be proactive and send weapons and equipment.
- realizing I face uphill battle, rising guerilla warfare, with extended logistic lines, I blow up all bridges on Dnieper and annouce one-sided cease fire.
- since there is no imminent thread to the existence of (other) half of Ukraine, the situation is less desperate and less attractive for media.
- after a few months since bombs stop falling and neither side is capable of pushing through Dnieper, the West, or at least most of EU wanna get to business as usual (still in might take a few more years to normalize).
- I can try to go for Odessa and Transnistria 10 years later, ideally when West will be occupied with China/Taiwan.
Hey, I'm just the random guy on the internet, but aparently I'm less retarded Leader than Putin, most of Russian High-command and like 5 FSB departments COMBINED
Edit:
I forgot - since there is no Kyiv attack angle, I don't need to involve Lukashenko, so he won't leak the invasion plan 5-days before the actual invasion and then screw me over with not joining the party
(you just need powerful radar)
